Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/25/1997 03:40 PM House HES

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 HB 16 - JUVENILE DELINQUENCY PROCEDURES                                     
                                                                               
 Number 0035                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BUNDE said a quorum was not present, but they would begin            
 to hear testimony on HB 16, "An Act relating to delinquent minors,            
 to the taking of action based on the alleged criminal misconduct of           
 certain minors, to the services to be provided to the victims of              
 criminal misconduct of minors, and to agency records involving                
 minors alleged to be delinquent based on their criminal misconduct;           
 and amending Rule 19 and repealing Rules 6, 7, 11(a), 12(a), and              
 21(f), Alaska Delinquency Rules."                                             
                                                                               
 Number 0053                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PETE KELLY, Sponsor of HB 16, stated that juvenile             
 crime has become a great problem in this state and people have                
 expressed concern about it.  In November of 1995, the Governor                
 convened a conference on youth and justice in order to find some              
 solutions to this growing problem.  This conference produced a                
 number of recommendations for pieces of legislation including HB 6,           
 the disclosure bill.  He said HB 16 compliments HB 6 and includes             
 a number of recommendations from that youth conference.                       
 REPRESENTATIVE KELLY explained that HB 16 authorizes;                         
 municipalities to take minors to civil court, provides for a                  
 victim/witness assistance program, a dual sentencing procedure,               
 involves communities in the informal adjustment of the juvenile               
 offenders, addresses some of flaws in the community service laws              
 and increases communication between the Department of Health and              
 Social Services (DHSS) and law enforcement.                                   
                                                                               
 Number 0217                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BUNDE asked the Administration's position on HB 16.                  
                                                                               
 Number 025                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KELLY responded that, in his opinion, the                      
 Administration favored this legislation.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 0243                                                                   
                                                                               
 MARGOT KNUTH, Assistant Attorney General, Central Office, Criminal            
 Division, Department of Law, said she worked on youth and justice             
 issues addressed by the Governor's Conference on Youth and Justice            
 of which Representatives Porter and Kelly were active participants.           
 The conference focused on low level offenders; the need to provide            
 more consistent and predictable consequences for these juveniles              
 and how to monitor those who were at risk of being chronic, serious           
 offenders.  She said HB 16 addresses both of those issues and the             
 Administration endorses this bill.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 0365                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH explained that in terms of low level offenders, as the              
 state is more restricted in its funding and personnel, there needs            
 to be a stronger focus on the serious offender.  A large gap is               
 being created in terms of responding to low level offenders.  While           
 this is happening, communities are stepping forward in order to               
 address low level offenders, particularly those who are committing            
 misdemeanor offenses.  This provides a good opportunity for a                 
 partnership between the state and communities to make sure there              
 are consequences.  These consequences need not be particularly                
 severe, but they must be predictable and consistent.                          
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH said that HB 16 provides a couple of different                      
 approaches; it creates a civil penalty procedure that                         
 municipalities can use and it authorizes the DHSS to enter into               
 agreements with communities about how they want to respond to low             
 level offenses.  Possible examples include youth court, village               
 court and pre-trial type diversion panels such as are being used in           
 the Mat-Su area.  These examples provide an authority presence                
 before which the offender makes an appearance.  These systems serve           
 as an alternative to going through the DHSS formal delinquency                
 procedures.  These programs give the juvenile a choice.  He or she            
 can either go through the traditional juvenile delinquency                    
 procedures, possibly resulting in formal juvenile adjudication, or            
 the juvenile can choose to go through this informal process where             
 they will not receive a criminal record and cannot be given any               
 time in detention, but short of that they can be ordered to perform           
 community work service, make restitution, write a letter of                   
 apology, seek counseling, work with their family and other things             
 which bridge the distance between that juvenile and society.  This            
 process attempts to give the juvenile the opportunity to get back             
 into mainstream society.                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 0555                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH stated that the other end of the spectrum are those                 
 juveniles who are at risk of becoming serious, chronic offenders.             
 On a national level, as the number of offenses increases, states              
 have lowered the age at which juveniles are treated as adult                  
 offenders and are given adult sentences.  Studies are uncovering              
 some problems with this approach such as a higher rate of                     
 recidivism by these juveniles.  These juveniles are more likely to            
 commit another crime, the new crime is likely to be more serious              
 and their commission of a new offense is likely to occur faster               
 than that of those in the juvenile system.  These things can be the           
 result of a couple factors, one of which is that we have targeted             
 a group which is particularly egregious in their behavior and so              
 they are self-selecting to be more serious offenders.  Another                
 factor can be that once you put the juveniles through the adult               
 system you are putting them with some real experts at criminal                
 offenses, creating a situation which is less rehabilitative and               
 possibly destructive.  These experiences have led to a nationwide             
 search for an alternative.  The dual sentencing provision shows the           
 most promise of any alternative.                                              
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH explained that if a juvenile commits an offense that                
 would be an automatic waiver offense if they were older or a                  
 situation occurred where the child was 16 or 17-years-old and                 
 committed a number of offenses, then they would go through the                
 juvenile proceedings but they would also be indicted by a grand               
 jury.  When this juvenile is adjudicated, they receive both a                 
 juvenile and an adult sentence.  This adult sentence hangs over               
 their head if they do not comply with all the requirements of the             
 juvenile sentence.  These requirements include making restitution,            
 committing no new offenses, performing whatever treatment orders              
 were entered by the court and whatever is seen to be the                      
 restorative, rehabilitative mechanism for that child.  The dual               
 sentencing provision gives the child a sense of responsibility for            
 staying out of the adult system.  What happens would be under her             
 or his control.  This is seen as something that could motivate                
 compliance with a juvenile sentence, something which is not                   
 currently being experienced under the current system.                         
                                                                               
 Number 0658                                                                   
 MS. KNUTH said there are questions about whether or not all the               
 constitutional safe guards, associated with an adult criminal                 
 conviction, are included in the juvenile delinquency proceedings.             
 She assured the committee that Alaska already provides all of those           
 safe guards, with the exception of the right to indictment.  This             
 right was added in the state's procedure so that anybody who could            
 be subject to dual sentencing will be indicted as is required for             
 any adult conviction.  She said that juveniles have the right to a            
 trial by 12 jurors on all offenses, including misdemeanor offenses.           
 Adults are only afforded the right to a 12 person jury trial in               
 felony cases and have a six person jury in misdemeanor offenses.              
                                                                               
 Number 0817                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH referred to the disclosure of juvenile information and              
 explained that currently parents have the ability to go to a                  
 legislator and discuss a Child in Need of Aid (CINA) case or a                
 delinquency case.  Currently, the DHSS is not able to provide any             
 information to the legislator about that case.  There are two                 
 provisions in HB 16; one addressing delinquents and one for CINA              
 cases.  These provisions would allow information to be provided by            
 DHSS, instead of that person only receiving one segment of                    
 information.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 0866                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BUNDE asked if this impacted federal law.                            
                                                                               
 Number 0872                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH said no, because it is a select disclosure instead of a             
 broad based public disclosure.  A clause is included in HB 16                 
 regarding that this disclosure is done on a need to know basis.               
                                                                               
 Number 0970                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH referred to a posted chart which showed that for the dual           
 sentencing process, one would start with the district attorney and            
 seek the grand jury indictment.  If there is a new offense or a               
 failure to comply after juvenile treatment, then a petition would             
 be filed which could result in the imposition of the adult sentence           
 including jail time.  The second chart related to juvenile                    
 delinquency proceedings where two processes are available.  One is            
 called an informal adjustment and the other is the formal                     
 delinquency adjudication.  The last chart explains that if you have           
 a violation and an arrest, the city of Anchorage would use a                  
 hearing officer system resulting in an imposition of a civil                  
 penalty.  Anchorage has been successful in their use of this                  
 system.  She referred to a bill which would criminalize curfew                
 violations.  This violation is currently being treated through the            
 civil penalty process.  Both those who are involved in using the              
 civil penalties and the prosecutors who don't want additional work            
 are pleased with the civil process.  Other communities do not have            
 a civil process in place and this bill would make it available.               
                                                                               
 Number 1041                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN referred to dual sentencing.  He asked if            
 a person was under age 13 on the first offense and over 13-years-             
 old on the second offense would that make any difference as opposed           
 to having both offenses occurring after age 13.                               
                                                                               
 Number 1080                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH recollected that for the instances when dual sentencing             
 could be used for a 13, 14 or 15-year-old, it would only take them            
 one offense to get them there because of the severity of the crime.           
 The 15 and 16-year-olds would have committed multiple offenses,               
 some of which could have occurred when they were age 14 or younger.           
                                                                               
 Number 1097                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE FRED DYSON asked for a definition of civil                     
 penalties.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 1111                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH answered that it was fines.   A person could perform                
 community work service in lieu of the fine.  The court cannot                 
 initially order community work service because of an appellate                
 ruling which states that it is a criminal sanction, it is                     
 involuntary servitude.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 1133                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DYSON asked, under our existing state law or under             
 the change made by HB 16, how restitution is enforced and what                
 happens if the juvenile cannot do it.  He asked what would happen             
 if the parents are unable to satisfy the requirements of                      
 restitution.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 1161                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH answered that the state requires offenders to sign over             
 their permanent fund dividend (PFD) checks.  This action has proven           
 to be a source of restitution which has made a difference to a lot            
 of victims.  After that action, the offender is brought back to               
 court and queried about not paying the restitution.  There are                
 those who cannot work or are not earning enough money.  The court             
 tries very hard to work with the offender to come up with a                   
 reasonable, realistic pay schedule.  In terms of a parent's                   
 liability for a juvenile's fines or court ordered restitution,                
 there is a statute which describes the age and amount.                        
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BUNDE stated that the parents can be responsible for                 
 restitution up to $10,000.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 1223                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DYSON clarified that if the parents were not                   
 immediately able to satisfy the amount, then there was a procedure            
 to seize their present and future PFD checks and garnish wages.  He           
 asked if there was a procedure in this state allowing a parent to             
 go through a process to divorce their child.                                  
                                                                               
 Number 1251                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BUNDE answered that you could emancipate a child, but that           
 it is a difficult process.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 1264                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KELLY referred to a bill from last session, HB 387,            
 the juvenile crime rewrite.  Provisions were included were                    
 restitution could be enforced as a civil matter and after age 19              
 they could still be held liable.                                              
                                                                               
 Number 1287                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DYSON referred to an example in Anchorage where they           
 were getting juveniles to clean up graffiti.  He assumed that we              
 could not force them to clean it up.  However the perpetrator could           
 agree to it at the time of adjudication and then it would be okay.            
                                                                               
 Number 1310                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH explained that if you are in a criminal proceeding, then            
 this type of service can be ordered.  The appellate court decision            
 regards instances when you are in a civil proceeding, agreed to by            
 the juvenile, in lieu of a criminal proceeding.  "The only time the           
 court cannot order and at this point it's only been community work            
 service that is generic work as opposed to clean up what you did,             
 is in the civil that that it's a civil, I'm going to say                      
 prosecution and, and that's what it started out being and that's              
 all you're, you're trying for."                                               
                                                                               
 Number 1352                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER mentioned that the emancipation of the            
 child is a difficult process.  The child has to be capable of                 
 independent emancipation as determined by the court.                          
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BUNDE stated that it is a separate court proceeding.                 
                                                                               
 Number 1372                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH said she grew up in California where there was a process,           
 called incorrigibility, where a parent could sign responsibility              
 for the child over to the state because the parent no longer felt             
 they could control or be responsible for the child.  The child                
 might still be placed with the parent, but the parent would be                
 relieved of this type of responsibility.  She cited a personal                
 example where she is the guardian for her 17-year-old nephew and              
 said that Alaska does not have a similar proceeding.                          
                                                                               
 Number 1403                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER made a motion to adopt the committee                    
 substitute, Chenoweth, dated April 24, 1997, as the working                   
 document.  Hearing no objections CSHB 16(HES) was before the                  
 committee.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 1420                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BUNDE asked about a fiscal note.                                     
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KELLY said language was purposefully pulled out of             
 HB 16 to prevent a fiscal note.                                               
                                                                               
 Number 1438                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. KNUTH stated that there is not currently a fiscal note and she            
 did not anticipate a fiscal note on this draft.                               
                                                                               
 Number 1464                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER asked if the victim/offender mediation                  
 program would still be available.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 1500                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BUNDE stated that this was the first time this bill was              
 heard and is the tradition of the committee it would be held to               
 give members a chance to review the bill.                                     

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